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#62-Dr. Evan Allen- Lines of Evidence and Debates on Dietary Fats
The Ian Cramer Podcast
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#62-Dr. Evan Allen- Lines of Evidence and Debates on Dietary Fats
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Feb 23, 2019
#62-Dr. Evan Allen- Lines of Evidence and Debates on Dietary Fats
The Ian Cramer Podcast
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Feb 23, 2019
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...time is the commodity that I am seeking more of and that I'm assuming many of you are seeking more of as
well
Ian's Intro #2
I think there's a broad consensus in favor of making sure that people understand the real truth, which is being obscured right now by fairly sophisticated patterns of
misinformation
Misinformation Is Confusing People About Nutrition
Like everything in life, my current opinions are things that I have changed my mind on over
time
Dr. Allen's Background
...If you've ever tried to convince someone to quit smoking from your personal life, you know that that's not an easy sell, and it's a much harder sell if you have five minutes [like a physician does with a
patient]...
Dr. Allen's Background
So we watch people who have these chronic conditions, and we do things to them that do help, and then we watch them get worse more slowly than they would have otherwise gotten worse had we done
nothing.
Dr. Allen's Background
Most everything they said in Forks Over Knives is in line with A - the scientific facts of the case and B - the general recommendations for the public on
nutrition
Forks Over Knives
Well, the facts are that American fat consumption has never dropped since the 1970s. It's been actually relatively flat - it hasn't gone up, but it also hasn't gone down. What HAS gone up dramatically is the total caloric
content.
The Truth About Calories
...We now see obesity rising everywhere, but most worst in the western world where calories are the easiest to come
by.
The Truth About Calories
Fat calories are by far the easiest to
store
The Truth About Calories
...Fat calories are always the easiest thing to store because it doesn't require any
work...
The Truth About Calories
...You're not cured of diabetes until you can eat a sandwich and your blood sugar doesn't go up to
250...
Diabetes and The Plug in the Sink Metaphor
So what do we see with the epidemiology of saturated fat? We see that if a population eats a diet that is very low in saturated fat and extremely high in carbohydrates, they have essentially no
diabetes.
The Dangers of Saturated Fat
..it's like clockwork, everywhere you get industrialization and westernization of the food supply, the diabetes comes
along...
The Dangers of Saturated Fat
...palm oil is a huge contributor to the saturated fat burden. It's found in almost 50 percent of all grocery store
products.
The Different Types of Fats
One of the big problems with with the the vegan label is that a lot of things are vegan, but they have very, very high saturated
fat.
The Different Types of Fats
Saturated fat is a problem for all people and all diets and should be something that people really really pay close attention
to..
The Different Types of Fats
...any study is to me less valid than well examined epidemiological
evidence.
The Importance of Epidemiologic Studies in Examining the Saturated Fat Literature
My point of view is that Toubes makes a lot of conceptual errors in his work and then those conceptual errors are essentially adopted whoel
hog.
But what about the argument that saturated fat isn't bad? - Dr. Allen's Thoughts on Gary Toubes and Nina Teicholz
Epidemiological studies are not perfect, but they give us as good a tool and as good a handle on what people eat as we possibly can
get.
Dr. Allen's Thoughts on the Argument of Nutritional Epidemiology Being a Flawed Science
So someone who decides to cut out sugar, well, they did get rid of two of the top four sources of saturated fat in their diet just by doing that [grain-based deserts and dairy-based deserts]... but they would do even better if they got rid of the sugar AND got rid of the saturated
fat
What about sugar?
The case against sugar is relatively weak. It's not there's not no case, but it's certainly nothing like the case we can make against saturated
fat.
What about sugar?
If you went on any diet of any type and you lost weight, you lost weight because you breathe out some carbon dioxide and peed out some water and you burn some calories. That's how you lost the weight. There's no magic
there.
How would Dr. Allen explain the benefits people experience with keto and the carnivore diet?
Any monotonous diet will always result in lower caloric consumption because the food becomes
uninteresting.
How would Dr. Allen explain the benefits people experience with keto and the carnivore diet?
Every day, when people reduce their saturated fat, their cholesterol levels
drop.
A Natural Side Effect of Weight Loss is an Improvement in Cholesterol Levels
All these different scientists, all around the world, look at the same data and come to the same
conclusions.
The General Nutritional Recommendations are the Same Across the Board
...there's good evidence that low-carbohydrate diets do cause birth
defects.
Throughout history, have any populations eaten a carnivorous or low-carb diet and shown positive health outcomes?
On the other hand, the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics has said that vegetarian and vegan diets are suitable for all stages of life, including pregnancy and
childhood.
Throughout history, have any populations eaten a carnivorous or low-carb diet and shown positive health outcomes?
"Non-starchy vegetables are massively established to have huge health benefits...
Key Takeaways - What You Need to Do to Improve Your Health
Don't eat refined sugar as a staple source of
calories.
Key Takeaways - What You Need to Do to Improve Your Health
To get the benefits from a healthy diet, you really need to markedly reduce your intake of saturated
fat...
Key Takeaways - What You Need to Do to Improve Your Health
Anybody who's grown up in this country knows how much meat people eat and yet this is the propaganda that they want people to believe - in the 90s Americans just totally gave up all meats and saturated fat and then the obesity epidemic immediately began at that
point.
Forks Over Knives
It seems like the primary driver of insulin resistance that drives that excess gluconeogenesis is saturated
fat...
Diabetes and The Plug in the Sink Metaphor
...So if somebody eats enough fat of all types, they will always have more saturated fat in their
diet.
The Dangers of Saturated Fat
"So therefore, when the epidemiology lines up with the clinical studies in human beings, and the animal studies, and the mechanistic studies, how is it not true?
More on Nutritional Epidemiology Studies - Don't they only show correlation and not causation?
Here's where the majority of saturated fat comes from
What about sugar?
...They're percent calories from saturated fat might have gone up, but they're absolute calories from saturated fat almost certainly
dropped.
How would Dr. Allen explain the benefits people experience with keto and the carnivore diet?
...A natural side effects of caloric restriction of any type is an improvement in blood
lipids.
A Natural Side Effect of Weight Loss is an Improvement in Cholesterol Levels
So whether you are vegetarian, vegan omnivorous, carnivorous, whatever you want to be, you should really try to limit your saturated fat intake."
Key Takeaways - What You Need to Do to Improve Your Health
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Misinformation Is Confusing People About Nutrition
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Dr. Allen's Background
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Forks Over Knives
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The Truth About Calories
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Diabetes and The Plug in the Sink Metaphor
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The Dangers of Saturated Fat
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The Different Types of Fats
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The Importance of Epidemiologic Studies in Examining the Saturated Fat Literature
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What do countries that have high metabolic disease rates typically eat? - Saturated Fat IS Harmful
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Dr. Allen's Thoughts on a Major Meta-Analyses Study from 2011 Which Showed That Saturated Fat is Not Harmful
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Animal Studies and Saturated Fat
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The Similarity Between Saturated Fat and Cocaine
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But what about the argument that saturated fat isn't bad? - Dr. Allen's Thoughts on Gary Toubes and Nina Teicholz
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Dr. Allen's Thoughts on the Argument of Nutritional Epidemiology Being a Flawed Science
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More on Nutritional Epidemiology Studies - Don't they only show correlation and not causation?
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What about sugar?
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How would Dr. Allen explain the benefits people experience with keto and the carnivore diet?
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A Natural Side Effect of Weight Loss is an Improvement in Cholesterol Levels
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Does sugar increase cholesterol at all?
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The General Nutritional Recommendations are the Same Across the Board
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The Vegan Seventh-Day Adventist Church Conspiracy
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Throughout history, have any populations eaten a carnivorous or low-carb diet and shown positive health outcomes?
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The Answer is a Whole Foods Plant-Based Diet
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Key Takeaways - What You Need to Do to Improve Your Health
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Ian's Outro #1
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Ian's Outro #2
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Ian's Outro #3 - He's a new dad!
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