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The Science & Treatment of Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD)
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The Science & Treatment of Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD)
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Andrew Huberman
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Jun 27, 2022
The Science & Treatment of Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD)
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Jun 27, 2022
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I've been experimenting a bit with taking 900 mg of myo-inositol, either alone or in combination with that sleep kit, and I must say, the sleep I've been getting on inositol is extremely deep and does seem to lead to enhanced levels of focus and alertness during the
day.
900+ mg of Myo-Inositol Improves Sleep & May Reduce OCD Symptoms
One of the key things for someone with OCD to come to understand if they're going to experience any relief of their symptoms... is that thoughts are not as bad as
actions.
To Relieve Symptoms, OCD Patients Must Realize Thoughts Aren't as Bad as Actions
It does appear that 900 milligrams of inositol can improve sleep, and can reduce anxiety, perhaps, when taken at that dosage or higher
dosages.
900+ mg of Myo-Inositol Improves Sleep & May Reduce OCD Symptoms
Unlike an itch that you feel and then you scratch it and it feels better, OCD is more like an itch that you feel, you scratch it, and the itch
intensifies.
Unlike OCD, Obsessive-Compulsive Personality Disorder Lacks an Intrusive Feature
OCD is extremely common. In fact, current estimates are that anywhere from 2.5% to as high as 3 or even 4% of people suffer from true OCD. That is an astonishingly high
number.
Although Many Hide It Out of Shame, 2.5-4% of People Have OCD
Here we have a situation in which the pattern of hormones in females and males with OCD are different from those in people without OCD such that GABA transmission is altered, and the net effect would be an overall reduction in GABA. Now, GABA, as an inhibitory neurotransmitter and broadly speaking, is associated with lower levels of anxiety, and it tends to create balance within various neural
circuits.
Males & Females With OCD Have Altered Hormone Levels, Causing Reduced GABA Transmission
These two features—first the fact that the obsessions are intrusive and recurrent as well as the fact that the compulsions (the behaviors) provide, if anything, only brief relief for the obsessions but in most cases simply serve to make the obsession stronger—are the hallmark features of obsessive-compulsive
disorder.
OCD's Hallmark Theme: Compulsions Provide Brief Relief While Strengthening the Obsession
OCD is currently listed as number 7 in terms of the most debilitating illnesses. Not just mental illnesses or disorders, but all types of illnesses—including things like asthma and cancer,
etc.
Out of All Illnesses, OCD Is the 7th Most Debilitating
For people with OCD... the compulsion to avoid anxiety is such a powerful driving force that it should now make sense to you as to why being able to tolerate anxiety and really sit with it and do the exact opposite of what you're normally compelled to do is going to be the path to
treatment.
CBT Helps OCD Patients Tolerate Anxiety That Comes from Ignoring Intrusive Thoughts
Despite the fact that the selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors can be effective in reducing the symptoms of OCD... there is very little, if any, evidence that the serotonin system is disrupted in
OCD.
Although Treatable With SSRIs, OCD Patients Don't Have Disrupted Serotonin Systems
Serotonin and the general systems of serotonin... have been shown to impact cognitive flexibility and inflexibility, which are kind of hallmark themes of OCD. So, in animals that have their serotonin depleted or in humans that have very low levels of serotonin, you can see evidence of cognitive inflexibility, challenges in task-
switching...
Low Serotonin Impacts Cognitive Flexibility & Inflexibility, Hallmark OCD Themes
In male patients with OCD, there was evidence for increased cortisol ... There were also significant reductions in
testosterone.
Males & Females With OCD Have Altered Hormone Levels, Causing Reduced GABA Transmission
They describe [how] effects of 5-HTP and tryptophan... might impact OCD. What you find is that they do have significant effects in improving or reducing the symptoms of OCD in somewhat similar way to some of the
SSRIs.
A 2011 Review Found 5-HTP & Tryptophan Reduced OCD Symptoms
About 40-50% of OCD cases have some genetic
component.
40-50% of OCD Cases Have a Genetic Component
Needless to say, suppressing anxiety is exactly the wrong direction that one should take if the goal is to ultimately relieve or eliminate the
OCD.
Because of OCD's Familiarity Component, Patients Undergoing CBT Often Receive Homework
Ketamine therapies are being explored for OCD. As of now, the data look somewhat promising, but there's still a lot more work that needs to be
done.
Ketamine Is Being Explored for OCD Treatment; Early Data Looks Promising
In females with OCD, there was evidence for significantly elevated cortisol and
DHEA.
Males & Females With OCD Have Altered Hormone Levels, Causing Reduced GABA Transmission
Superstitions are beliefs that we, on an individual scale, come to believe are linked to the probability of an outcome when, in fact, we know, we actually know in our rational minds, they have no real relationship to the
outcome.
Superstitions: Behaviors Performed Despite Knowing They Have No Relationship to an Outcome
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OCD's Hallmark Theme: Compulsions Provide Brief Relief While Strengthening the Obsession
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Unlike OCD, Obsessive-Compulsive Personality Disorder Lacks an Intrusive Feature
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Although Many Hide It Out of Shame, 2.5-4% of People Have OCD
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Out of All Illnesses, OCD Is the 7th Most Debilitating
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Categories of OCD Obsessions & Compulsions: Checking, Repetition, & Order
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Obsessions & Compulsions, No Matter How Irrational, Are Bound By Anxiety
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40-50% of OCD Cases Have a Genetic Component
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The Cortico-Striatal-Thalamic Loop Is the Brain Circuit That Underlies OCD
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Brain Imaging Studies Allow Neuroscientists to Determine Which Neural Circuits Underlie OCD
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In Mice, Repeated Cortico-Striatal Activation Generates OCD-Like Behavior
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Understanding OCD's Mechanisms Can Aid Treatment Decisions
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The Y-BOCS Index Is the Gold Standard of Clinical OCD Diagnosis
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A Single Fear Often Drives All Obsessions & Compulsions in OCD Patients
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CBT Helps OCD Patients Tolerate Anxiety That Comes from Ignoring Intrusive Thoughts
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Because of OCD's Familiarity Component, Patients Undergoing CBT Often Receive Homework
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OCD Patients Undergoing CBT Often Receive Home Visits from Psychiatrists
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Dr. Helen Blair Simpson Is a World Expert in Treating OCD; Here's Her Protocol
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Cognitive Behavioral Therapy Treats OCD More Effectively Than SSRIs
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When Choosing an SSRI, Many Side Effects Must Be Considered
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Although Treatable With SSRIs, OCD Patients Don't Have Disrupted Serotonin Systems
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Psilocybin's Effectiveness for Treating OCD Is Inconclusive as of 2022
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Low Serotonin Impacts Cognitive Flexibility & Inflexibility, Hallmark OCD Themes
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CBT & SSRIs for OCD Treatment Can Take 10-12 Weeks to Take Effect
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If SSRIs or CBT Aren't Effective, Psychiatrists Often Use Neuroleptics to Treat OCD
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A 2020 Study Showed Smoking Cannabis Doesn't Reduce OCD Symptoms
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Ketamine Is Being Explored for OCD Treatment; Early Data Looks Promising
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Early Data Shows Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation (TMS) Reduces OCD Symptoms
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Given Cannabis Increases Focus, Andrew Isn't Surprised It Doesn't Reduce OCD Symptoms
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To Relieve Symptoms, OCD Patients Must Realize Thoughts Aren't as Bad as Actions
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Males & Females With OCD Have Altered Hormone Levels, Causing Reduced GABA Transmission
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Most Often, OCD Symptoms First Appear Around Puberty
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Mindfulness Meditation Can Improve CBT's Effectiveness for Treating OCD
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A 2011 Review Found 5-HTP & Tryptophan Reduced OCD Symptoms
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900+ mg of Myo-Inositol Improves Sleep & May Reduce OCD Symptoms
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People With Obsessive-Compulsive Personality Disorder Excel at Delaying Gratification
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Superstitions: Behaviors Performed Despite Knowing They Have No Relationship to an Outcome
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Superstitious People Have a Tendency Toward OCD
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Andrew Huberman Outro (Part I)
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Support the 'Huberman Lab' Podcast
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Momentous Supplements
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Connect With Andrew Online
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Andrew Huberman Outro (Part II)
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Andrew Huberman Intro
Momentous Supplements
Disclaimer
Athletic Greens
AD: Thesis
AD: Eight Sleep
OCD's Hallmark Theme: Compulsions Provide Brief Relief While Strengthening the Obsession
Unlike OCD, Obsessive-Compulsive Personality Disorder Lacks an Intrusive Feature
Although Many Hide It Out of Shame, 2.5-4% of People Have OCD
Out of All Illnesses, OCD Is the 7th Most Debilitating
Categories of OCD Obsessions & Compulsions: Checking, Repetition, & Order
Obsessions & Compulsions, No Matter How Irrational, Are Bound By Anxiety
40-50% of OCD Cases Have a Genetic Component
The Cortico-Striatal-Thalamic Loop Is the Brain Circuit That Underlies OCD
Brain Imaging Studies Allow Neuroscientists to Determine Which Neural Circuits Underlie OCD
In Mice, Repeated Cortico-Striatal Activation Generates OCD-Like Behavior
Understanding OCD's Mechanisms Can Aid Treatment Decisions
The Y-BOCS Index Is the Gold Standard of Clinical OCD Diagnosis
A Single Fear Often Drives All Obsessions & Compulsions in OCD Patients
CBT Helps OCD Patients Tolerate Anxiety That Comes from Ignoring Intrusive Thoughts
Because of OCD's Familiarity Component, Patients Undergoing CBT Often Receive Homework
OCD Patients Undergoing CBT Often Receive Home Visits from Psychiatrists
Dr. Helen Blair Simpson Is a World Expert in Treating OCD; Here's Her Protocol
Cognitive Behavioral Therapy Treats OCD More Effectively Than SSRIs
When Choosing an SSRI, Many Side Effects Must Be Considered
Although Treatable With SSRIs, OCD Patients Don't Have Disrupted Serotonin Systems
Psilocybin's Effectiveness for Treating OCD Is Inconclusive as of 2022
Low Serotonin Impacts Cognitive Flexibility & Inflexibility, Hallmark OCD Themes
CBT & SSRIs for OCD Treatment Can Take 10-12 Weeks to Take Effect
If SSRIs or CBT Aren't Effective, Psychiatrists Often Use Neuroleptics to Treat OCD
A 2020 Study Showed Smoking Cannabis Doesn't Reduce OCD Symptoms
Ketamine Is Being Explored for OCD Treatment; Early Data Looks Promising
Early Data Shows Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation (TMS) Reduces OCD Symptoms
Given Cannabis Increases Focus, Andrew Isn't Surprised It Doesn't Reduce OCD Symptoms
To Relieve Symptoms, OCD Patients Must Realize Thoughts Aren't as Bad as Actions
Males & Females With OCD Have Altered Hormone Levels, Causing Reduced GABA Transmission
Most Often, OCD Symptoms First Appear Around Puberty
Mindfulness Meditation Can Improve CBT's Effectiveness for Treating OCD
A 2011 Review Found 5-HTP & Tryptophan Reduced OCD Symptoms
900+ mg of Myo-Inositol Improves Sleep & May Reduce OCD Symptoms
People With Obsessive-Compulsive Personality Disorder Excel at Delaying Gratification
Superstitions: Behaviors Performed Despite Knowing They Have No Relationship to an Outcome
Superstitious People Have a Tendency Toward OCD
Andrew Huberman Outro (Part I)
Support the 'Huberman Lab' Podcast
Momentous Supplements
Connect With Andrew Online
Andrew Huberman Outro (Part II)
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