Hello everybody. Welcome back to the show. My guest today is me again, I hit 2.5 million subscribers on YouTube and as is tradition to celebrate, ask for questions from YouTube, community, and Twitter and Instagram. So here is another 90 minutes of me trying to answer as many as possible, including, what's happening with bringing Naval ravikant on the show? My Reflections on the best ways to take a break from alcohol. And when I want to have kids, expect to learn who I'm thinking of
Of bringing on as guests from the left and the right over the next few months. The best ways to learn to trust your decisions. My advice, for getting out of a rut, whether I respect Dan Bilzerian what it's like, living with a giraffe and much more.
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what's happening? People, welcome back to the show. It is
a 2.5 million subscriber, Q&A episode. And this one is, I guess a bit more special because
Because 250k was the number of Subs. I had when I moved out to America two and a half years ago and this is 10 times that which feels like a cool milestone in two and a half years. It's been a lot of work to get here and bit of Sanity lost I guess along the way, but very worthwhile and it feels good. You know every time that I do, one of these are try not to get too sloppy about support and all the shares and likes in the nice messages and all the rest of it. But I really do appreciate it.
Than I can ever say. So thank you as usual. I asked for questions from YouTube, community and Twitter and Instagram. And there were way more than I'm going to be able to get through. So let's get into it, Chris Cavanaugh, you've talked about the importance of getting more comfortable with asking critical questions and how difficult it can be. Has this giving you some appreciation for traditional journalism, and confrontational style interviews. Yes, massively looking at Kathy Newman or Helen Lewis against Pete.
Person every conversation Douglas Murray as ever involved in, you know, like Piers Morgan Chang, cougar, like these people, I didn't know that. It's so to be able to have that level of what kind of feels a bit like vitriol. It certainly seems like aggression but then it sort of controlled and then people walk away the enemy. Did they shake hands, do shake. Hands. Did Jordan Pederson and Helen Lewis shake hands. After they finished that up. I don't know. But yeah, it's a real
Skillset debating, it being around Alex O'Connor being friends with him and seeing how going for dinner with him can be a fucking nightmare because he just wants to debate everything. So yeah, hugely given me a different appreciation. It's a skill set. That being said, certain things come to certain people, more easily for me asking sort of probing questions. And chasing down random thought patterns, little, Curiosities comes very easily, I'm sure that some confrontational Style
I'll journalists that got cut. It would be great if I could sort of continue to pursue a particular question more. Effectively like that, but I can argue very very easily. So everyone's got their different skill sets and I guess I'm just trying to fill in the weaknesses of mine wherever I can Kyle Pereira 5190. What would you say to the people who said you won't make it? Um, I think it's even sadder than that. It would make for a very romantic story for me.
Say that there was people who doubted that things were going to work, but I actually think that no one was paying attention or even cared. It's so few. People have genuine enemies out there. There's people who are have this, sort of generalized cynicism about the world and that's not about you. That's just about their perspective of how all risks or opportunities in life should be perceived. I don't think really anyone said that I wasn't going to
To make it, they just weren't, they didn't care at all and still, probably don't, you know, the stuff, probably, living, whatever, totally Blissful life. They've got and who even says I've made it, but yeah, no one did. And I got rid of the chip on my shoulder. I think about what happened to me in school and being an outcast and sort of being bullied and stuff like that, I got rid of that within the last and now five years or so. And I much prefer not being driven by that stuff. And yeah, I honestly don't think that
Even paid attention when I started doing this thing. I know that for a fact the meddler, what is the best way to support your content monetarily? I have Spotify Audible and YouTube, I know, streaming and payment a weird and I want to make sure I'm supporting the Creator's. I benefit from the best way I can.
If you want to support the show, just subscribe it to it and share it with friends. Like that's honestly, the best thing I don't ask we had we played around with patreon once we played around with locals once and I didn't know it just didn't feel right? It didn't kind of work for me. I would much sooner just focus on getting the best guests, I can and having great conversations. So if you want to support the show, just share episodes with friends. I think more than 50% of podcast listeners, find shows through personal recommendation.
So if you ever think I really like, and appreciate what Chris is doing, just share it with a friend. That's the best thing you can do and make sure that you're subscribed. That's all I'm going to ask of you, the Dolan one. How much of your podcast is edited? Do you cut out long pauses? Coughs Miss slips. Never pretty much everything that you see is almost exactly the way that it was recorded, we very rarely cut anything. I always wanted to kind of learn to be accurate.
My speech without having to use the ejector seat button of an editor coming in and fixing, whatever errors I made. Also, I think it sterilizes the conversation a little bit too much and on top of that you and the guests are creating this Vibe and sometimes it's really slow or sometimes it's really awkward or sometimes it's really protracted or sometimes it's super fast or aggressive or whatever. And I think I'd know it's kind of respectful of the audience to show you what it was like and not show you this sort of
I didn't know, face tuned version of that and others. Lots and lots of podcasts that cut out everything from poses to coughs to, um, Xander's a, I can do it for a long time. People had editors going through and shopping, all that stuff out. That's not my style. I'd much sooner. I think just show you it warts-and-all. So yeah, you can have faith. That what you see is what was recorded Hattie t44 for? How can you wear shorts and a t-shirt?
Shirt to interview a former United States, Representative. I'm guessing you're talking about Tulsi, gabbard here are
I have tried to construct my life in such a way so that I never need to wear anything. I don't want to wear, don't need to wear a suit or a tie or pants if I want. If I don't want to Anna.
I don't think it's disrespectful to do that. I we not Beyond somebody's dress being indicative of how much they care about something and I live in Austin and it's 105 degrees all the time and I want to be comfortable and fuck you. I was wearing Crocs as well. So there we go. David Atkinson 5149. Hey Chris love the
It's just wondering what it's like living with a giraffe. I know he holds a special place in your heart, keep up the great work. Thank you. I'm no longer living with Zach. He's moved in with his girlfriend. This as you may notice is a new house, this is new studio. We're halfway through the build again. I know that we only just changed it for the people that care and pay attention to the way that we're lighting. This thing, this is very much a halfway house. There's lots and lots of work to be done but I'm in a new place. The last one was killing me so I'm going to I guess talked a good bit about that over the next few months.
Health took quite a big hit, but these with his check. Now, that's super happy. He doesn't have to deal with me harassing him to wake up earlier or whatever. It was I was doing but I got to see him the other day. He came round to the new house. So yeah, will you'll still be seeing more of them over the next year? Matthew Burnet. 9850 podcast have provided a necessary alternative to the mainstream. But do you think the pendulum can swing too far in the opposite direction? Podcast fans may be forgiven for thinking that all
Vaccines are evil and climate change isn't real. Would you have on more mainstream voices? Such as Dan Wilson, vaccines and Simon Clarke climate. So your audience are exposed to all points of view, I don't disagree. This was the entire conversation that Malcolm Gladwell and Douglas Murray had that debate a couple of months ago. I think that there is definitely still a place for the more mainstream positions. It wouldn't do for everyone to just be a degenerate heterodox like independent Creator and I know what you mean.
But when the institutions haven't really showered themselves in glory, over the last four years, it's very easy and cool to just assume that everything that comes out of Independent Media is true and it's not it's that's not the case we're not subject to the same kind of fact checking and restraint that mainstream are and that exact restraint and perverse incentives is why mainstream media is struggling to. So I think a right balance between the two to me, seems to be the right way to go about it when it comes to climate change in,
Ins, you know the director, the lead researcher, Richard bets on the intergovernmental panel. On climate change has been on the show, Hannah Richie, that is the lead data scientist to our world in date has been on the show. Vaccines are never talked about that at all. That was something that I stayed clear of. So I'm definitely thinking about trying to balance perspectives and viewpoints, you know, having the founder of Greenpeace on who's very climate, skeptical and him going super viral with that episode made me think. Okay, well, let's get some other points of view.
Once I'm consciously, trying to do that as much as possible and hopefully that comes across n flan. Do you charge your guests / pay guests for podcasts? No. And I never have and I have never been paid. We've been offered like obscene amounts of money. Like really, really high amounts of money to bring guests on the show that's by sponsors and just people that wanted to pay out, right? And I've never taken money.
If I want to bring someone on the show, it's only because I'm interested in speaking to them, I will never ever charged guests. And I will never ever pay or take money from guests for coming on. I did, like, this is something that I guess is maybe a an Insight that not that no one really gets to see, which is a lot of the time podcasters will get into any independent content. Creator will get accused of being a grifter or a shill for the things that they do. But nobody sees the things that
You don't do, nobody sees the tons and tons of money that you turned down from sponsors, that you don't believe in or from guests that want to come on the show that you're not interested in but just have a ton of money behind them or maybe some weirds nefarious organization that wants to push their point of view, like, no one sees or gives you credit for the things that you don't do for the guests, you don't bring on that. You don't agree with for the Partnerships that you turned down because you don't think that they're legitimate and that's kind of sad.
Add that I've sacrificed growth, tons of growth, so much so much and and money and all the rest of the things to then. He has someone say, oh yeah, I don't like a G1 and ink it, you shouldn't be and I'm like bro I fucking used it every day for three years. I used element every day for three years, like it's work with partners that I like you shouldn't. I don't like this. But Tulsi gabbard has, she's not a respectable, she's got zero credibility and I thought it was interesting.
Sumi, I don't care. So yeah, like trying to portray what trying to show that you're doing things in. The right way is superbly difficult because people will find a problem with all of the things that you do and never give you credit for the things that you didn't. And I don't know. I did, there's no way to change that. It's kind of like, giving a homeless person money, but filming it at the same time, it's like, I'm not doing this thing. I'm not omitting to work with this company. I'll bring this person on, or accept this money or whatever.
Because I want to get the goodbye credits, but I'm doing it because that's sort of The Virtuous thing to do and that's where my values lie. But then to also have to be like, it would be like giving a ton of money to homeless people, not videoing it and then loads of people saying you don't give any money to the homeless. How could you you? Like I just would so, but no, don't charge guests or receive money for it. Never will.
He'll engulf. And how can I get better at asking questions? I made a podcast. Thanks to you while good luck. I honestly think that
Following your curiosity. It's such a obvious suggestion. But following your curiosity, what is it that you want to know? And it kind of feels to me it's like touching the top of a like a membrane or something, some kind of surface like the top of a balloon and every so often there's a little divot and that is kind of, it's an unqualified statement from the guests or it's something that you don't quite understand and just listening to the little voice in the back of your head. To me seems to be the best way that's when I met.
Absolute best. I'm just sort of sat sinking into what they get saying and then there's something happens. Like, I went by before you move on, and I ask a question, couple of other things asking for clarification. What do you mean by that? Can you elaborate same or, you know, encouraging the guests to keep going if you don't think that they're there. Why is a fantastic question that very few? Like not enough people use keeping questions, very short as well. And something else that I did a lot of on I first started, which everyone does
Because they're nervous is that they ask a question and then they offer up options. So I'd say so Tulsi. It's interesting sort of what we've got coming up to the next couple of months. What do you think? The rest of 2024 has in store for the u.s. cultural climate? Do you think that it's going to get a lot and as soon as you do that, do you think that or that you have now created this weird? Binary Choice, were the guests needs to either that you've already kind of perverted the
Ian that they're going to go in and they have to either select one of the two or do this. Really awkward thing of saying? No, it's neither of the things you suggested, it's a third thing. So, just asking the question. And then, allowing the discomfort, there is a little bit of discomfort. At least, I find thunder was because everything's fucking uncomfortable to me.
Allowing that discomfort to sit and just letting it hang there. What do you think the rest of the year's going to be like
And just, you don't need to offer up suggestions. That's one of the things that new podcasters do a lot.
He Purdue have you ever shaved your head completely? I mean this is pretty short. This is a one and a half and a to even shorter than this. No. Never I don't think the world doesn't need to see skinhead. Chris, I'm not convinced that. That's a gift to the world or myself at all. S Mario. 2820 gosh, you utterly, beautiful human, thank you. Thank you for being such a brilliant role model to so many.
Any young man, the truth will prevail and only if men and women like us will stand up for it, may you continue to be healthy and Thrive for the good of us all question when you having children. And when you do, so, can you please have at least three such Beyond replacement rate? And can you please and do more to actively encourage young couples to start having children earlier? Need to find a woman. First, I feel like that's one of the important elements of having kids. So once I've got her, then can start on the
Second part 3, hard to is really the number that I like the sound of, I really like the idea of to just because all of my friends have got more than to talk about the challenges of going to a restaurant, or going to a theme park, or getting in a car, or getting a hotel or flying on a plane. Like the world is built for families of four and that would be great if the world could be built for families of five, maybe that would actually encourage people to have more kids and I know but I know it'll be, it'll be
At least two, okay? Just give me
give me time multi thyrsus and how big would you dream if you knew you couldn't fail?
That's cool question. I don't know, I guess I think a lot of my life is driven by fear a lot of it is uncertainty and vigilance and fear. It's a fear that things are not going to go well that they're going to fall apart or don't go in a mess up or that somebody's mad at me. And that definitely does curtail my like ability to be ambitious.
So I guess I'm kind of a role model for people who don't actually have particularly Big Dreams our Ambitions. I'm not like I don't lie I don't have a Five-Year Plan every time that someone asks me and whether it's a business Guru Mentor person on the show or somebody my private life or the therapist or whatever. I don't know where I want to be in five years. I just it's like the ultimate proof that you don't rise to the level of
Your goals, you fall to the level of your habits, and my habits are that, I work, pretty hard. And I pay attention to stuff. So, if you are someone who doesn't have a particularly Big Dreams or a massive amount of self-esteem or or confidence, it kind of doesn't matter, you can feel like you don't deserve it and not believe that it's going to happen and it's still go. Well so I know hopefully that's reassuring.
And American Jedi, why were you sitting next to Craig Jones at cji? Are you the super secret donor know? I'm certainly not, I do not have two million dollars to give to Craig Jones, has degenerate Brazilian jiu-jitsu tournament. That being said it was very fun and to all the people that came out and saw us there, that was awesome. But I don't know who that super secret donor was I was trying to probe him even privately. I was trying to find out who the fuck it is. That's got a couple of mil to just toss to the curb.
No, maybe one day he'll tell us the same day that he tells us why whatever it was the danaher death squads broke up. There's so much law around Craig and that lot it's great what they've done. It's kind of like a the best seasons of Game of Thrones where everyone didn't have any idea what was going to happen next.
Tom, the taxi driver, a fantastic achievement. Chris you're a true Bastion of the movement against mental masturbation and I guess the physical kind to her Raven Alpha, thank you. I'm really eager for you to dive deeper into your thoughts, and no alcohol as you're someone who's gone a long time without debris, introduced it at various Point. Presumably successfully. I'm over two years sober and for all the life-changing benefits that it has yielded. I wonder if it's published sitting in the same realm as other self improvement. Practices like monk mode is useful for a period of your life before reintegrating into society.
I sometimes wonder if drinking alcohol is a similar thing. I know you've brought this up at odd times on your pod but would love to get you in full depth of you on it. Thanks man. I know you're crushing the American dream but we really could use a figure like you back in the UK. Can we draft you back in the taxi? Ride is on me Tom, but a beautiful message. Thank you. Okay. So first thing I certainly do believe that there is a place for alcohol in your life. I'm actually so horseshoe a Time. Unlike the third loop around of this, I'm now
Very like non fussed with alcohol even though I did the sobriety and then reintroduced and was like, it's not just about going sober, it's also about reintroducing it because anyone that says that a night out, can't be made better by being a little bit tipsy. Hasn't had a sufficiently good night out and I do stand by that but the last couple of years each time I drink it's been less and less fun. That's just such better drugs out there if you actually want to enjoy yourself and not feel so bad.
The next day and I don't know, just the effect of alcohol is a drug. Isn't that fun? That being said, the effects of sobriety are especially elective sobriety which was kind of the super lame turn. I came up with for people who don't need to go sober but choose to go sober. The benefits of elective sobriety is so strong. It's really, really easy for you to just never want to reintroduce it. I do have a sense that
if you've got a problem with a particular substance even if it's a very mild one like it reduces the amount of personal growth that I'm able to do. I do kind of believe that
Until you can reintroduce it on your own terms. You haven't fully sort of transcended and included that. So if nothing else, it's a really interesting test to see, one rule that you can use, which I used quite successfully was sobriety was domestic. And then if I ever did go away on holiday, I would try out drinking. And that usually meant that, you know, once every few months or whatever, when I was taking a break from running clubs that I'd maybe get to
Have a few beers and see how I felt and usually I'd feel exactly the same that I'm not too fussed about that reintroducing. It is important. That's why I've always said that people that are doing Focus period of elective sobriety, should do it until a deadline and then reintroduce and then go again you're not doing this to be able to say I went sober for 1000 days, I went sober, 500 days, I went sober for two months or whatever you're doing it.
Literally just for yourself. No one else is counting the numbers. You're not going to. If you've done two years, there's no chance you're going to slip back into being a party by on a weekend. You're already evidently in love with the idea of of being sober so just test it have a couple bit. It'll take you one and a half beers to remind yourself about what the sensation of being drunk is like. And when it comes to the drafting me back into the UK, I will be in the UK on the 28th of November at the event. Mm, Apollo in London. Tickets are available across Williamson, don't live. So I see London and apart from that,
It's going to be a rarity. I'm afraid we can't see me on stage Nick, twin 14, have you read all of the Red Rising series on Tupac to now great read. Dude I fucking love that Series so much. I went back and started again from the first one even though I haven't finished the seventh one or the 61 whichever one it is. Now I went back and read the first one again and started. It's so fantastic for the people that don't know what we're talking about Red Rising, awesome.
Sci-fi /, fantasy future, novel series, by Pierce Brown, it's my favorite fiction series of all time. It's available at the Modern Western reading list which can get it Chris Williamson. Don't, Chris will x.com / bucks, 100 bucks. You should read before you die, all of my favorites, and there's a link to this one in there and a justification for why I like it. But I'm just about to finish the final book in the series. And I can't wait to see what he does. Next, is these great that that series should come with a addiction warning. Labels
Oh fantastic. Mark Crouch 25. Congrats why learned. Thank you. When will you become an adopted? Son of dr. Mike is retail. When there will there be any animosity between Jared further and yourself, best of luck and keep up the great work? I mean, last time, someone said that me and Mike is ratelle, look alike. And I accused them of having some kind of mental defect Jared feather. And me, probably look a little bit more similar but still not that much. He's trailer trash from
Fuck knows where in America and I'm trailer trash from the northeast of the UK. So we have a little bit in common maybe all three of us have got four skins at least two of us do so who knows? User nineteen thirty eight, thirty eight, twenty nine twenty nine, twenty nine nine,
Do you feel anxious about being 36 this year and not settle down? Ah,
huh.
Not anxious, but it's certainly I'd be lying if I said it didn't play in the back of my mind that there was this sense. Should you not have got it more sorted by now I also
I understand that you make sacrifices in certain areas for progress and others. And if I was going to do the move to America at 33 thing and try and you know, restart the life of build a business on my own like completely on my own in this brand-new country probably would have been quite tough to have held relationship together or a marriage or something, but I'm looking for, I'm working hard. Okay, I'm trying, I'm
Settling down. I'm settled settling on the, in the process of settling in trying my best as quickly as I can after sun. Any plans to have progressives like I'll kolinsky crystal ball, has an R&B or politicians. So. Rory Stewart was on found him very good Brian class quite Progressive. Ryan holiday. Actually, super Lefty, although people don't give him credit for it. Obviously Destiny's being on Dean Phillips, the
Erratic National presidential candidate was on but I would love to get Kyle on and Crystal massive fan of both of them are impossible to get a hold of. If anyone knows Kyle kolinsky your crystal ball or can do the intro, please feel free to lupus in because they don't seem to have email addresses at all and we've been looking for it. So yeah, I'd love to have a chat with them. I think both of them are very interesting, has an RBI been in touch with a little bit, busy guy streams, like 25 hours a day. So,
We'll see if we can make that work.
Chateau de vaux, works out. Have you filled the positions? You're hiring for still ongoing? We got six thousand applicants. I'd like six and a half thousand applicants for two roles sounds great, but actually kind of made everything a little bit harder. So that was a general manager and a guest Booker. And we got just really phenomenal talent for both, but it's taking time to go through it and my standards for the people that I want to bring honor, obviously, quite High may be unrealistic. So I'm
I'm we're doing the assessment period or taking a time with that, but we are getting there and hopefully there will be assistance to give me a little bit more time to actually read and have a life soon because I'm not necessarily had that recently Stewart danger. Stuart Lee is the comedian's comedian. What are the podcast does podcasts? That's a good question. So Founders is definitely one. That's the first one that comes to mind with David Sandra being on the show before the nominal inside, he takes one buck.
Or one person from history and just breaks them down. That's great. What else do I think?
I think Lex has a lot of podcasters. Listen to Lexus show. Oddly enough decoding. The guru's is kind of like the little bit like the gossip, it's like a left-leaning more, left-leaning gossip thread for I know a lot of people in the industry listen to that or something similar to that queue and an anonymous blocked and reported very bad Wizards. Like there's something for
from that area which is the sort of critique sphere thing. Like a lot of people take a lot of guys in the industry, listen to something from that. And then there was this whole, I don't know whether they're still going because I stopped seeing them on my YouTube, but this whole sort of critique sphere that was on YouTube. A lot of it was focused towards comedy and stuff like that. So to be honest, much of it, there's not many that a kind of underground Heroes, much more of it is like weather reports and Gossip Girl but for
But casting I would say, actually, I would, I would say I'm Tim Dillon, is probably one of those because the solo style shows, lend themselves to easy listening and it's good to kind of get a 0 actually, two more pirate wires by Mike Solana, not necessarily A podcasters podcast. But certainly from a news perspective, I know a lot of people listen to that for then use that's in the industry and all in all in podcast crashing at the moment it's one of my favorites comes out every
Today, the boys are great. I really, really love what they're doing, so there's some combination of History, music news and Tack / gossip and then just exclusively Gossett, is kind of a little blender. Thomas H. 1944 didn't want to mention anything during the Duomo tour in Florence. Chris big fan and all the best. Thanks Thomas. Yeah, I went to Florence I went up the Duomo and
Very much appreciate seeing you there, even if you kept quiet.
Astra Mac, do you think being articulate is a talent to be born with? Um, I can only speak to myself and I'd got teased a lot in school for using different words. So one of the most common, like one of the earliest insults I can remember is that I should fuck off and read the dictionary again.
so,
it's some of its innate it seems or at least was like, very
Precocious lie.
Started for me begun, but it's certainly something that you can develop and the goal is not to be articulates just to be precise, right? You're looking to just say the thing that you mean I'm actually actively trying to sort of dial back the complexity of the language that I use especially when I'm writing you know some of the best writers George Mack Rob Henderson Gwenda Bogle that it kind of in this online articles fear stuff that I love they don't use fancy words.
The very, very simplistic with the language that just precise and I think that that's the goal Precision, so you can develop it, if you spend time, listening to people who have great vocabularies and then if you get a word, for instance, I read meretricious and really loved it as a word and thought that's cool. Like I really, I really could do with that. It fills a hole that I don't need and then I tried to force feed it into a bunch of sentences and bits of writing over the next couple of weeks.
X. And now it's locked in. I've got meretricious in in the old Arsenal, but yeah, it's certainly something that you can develop mg dot squared, Crocs in sport mode. Our regular to regular all day. I hate the way the Crocs lock in sports mode. If you see me in Crocs in sports mode, some shit is going down like it is really. It's fucking on. I'm running for a plane, or I'm playing pickleball. And I've got no other pair of trainers nearby. I've had to do it in Crocs which I have done before.
Yeah, I just think there's so much cooler without that back strap on and I'll fight anyone that disagrees. Les Mills, body coach, what's your experience with the Lasik? Is it worth it? Yes, 100%. I had fantastic experience. Obviously, if you read and I did, if you read the nightmare stories on the internet, you're going to get a lot of people whose Vision was blurry and never came back, or who had some mishap in their surgery and all the rest of it. So, maybe the, maybe the likelihood of
that going wrong was 10% and I'm just in the 90%, I don't know, but my experience is great. My vision is super sharp, it works on a nighttime. It was about a year that it took to settled and but I probably had it for about a year or Ash now Vision on a nighttime took a little while to settle down. There was this sort of flaring around lights, which sounds cool and looks beautiful on a movie, but it's really fucking annoying if you're trying to drive. So that was tough. But
Now, it's great. I'm so so, so glad that I got it done. So for what it's worth, I went to the ocl in London. I think it's like the optometrists College of London or something. It's ocl London. Anyway, you should be able to see it was Edgeworth. Unfortunate name, do you work out the same time every day or does it change to fit your schedule? It's the same time. Pretty much everyday. 740. Either doing class or
With my trainer or sat on an assault bike, doing Norwegian 4x4, and hating myself, 7:40 in the morning. Which means I can get a bit just before seven.
Roll myself around until I'm ready to move, get in the car, get to the gym and then be done and back in my desk by 9:00 a.m. that's the plant finish by 9:00 a.m. and 742 Rick folder. Do you fancy a game of cricket when you're in Sydney? Yes. Yes, I would love that part from the fact that the last time I tried to play cricket, I ruptured an Achilles. So I'll watch and I'll, I could field. I could definitely feel different allowed to stand in slips. I would 100% be, don't feel that me down the order. Put a runner in for me. So I don't need to
Actually do anything. I would be down to do that. By the way, coming to Australia for the first time ever tickets are available at Chris Williamson dot Live / Australia, Wednesday the 6th in Melbourne, Friday, the 8th in Brisbane and Saturday the 9th of November in Sydney, I'll be there on stage. Jim Smith's going to be there as well. Sorry about that. Q a live. Talk for me intro from him, it'll be great. So if you want to come and see me in Australia, Chris Williamson
At Live / Australia, Danielle Sinclair 28, have you signed the change.org petition? For Alex O'Connor to shave his mustache? Or are you in favor? I have seen this. I'm very Pro Alex becoming as visually spicy as possible. I would love for him. To start wearing skinny jeans like cropped, skinny jeans, get a high fade. I think the Turning Alex into a fuck-boy would be one of the great gifts that I could give the world especially you know.
Than my background in Nightlife. I do truly believe that I'm the man to be able to make this happen. But I'm completely in favor, that guy's gone through multiple mustache. Here has a full-on beard era recently as well only as recently as last year shit. He went for a sort of a stubble approaches. Well, I'm I'm on board. I'm on board. Let the guy cook, right? Let his face cook mitts MIT MIT. He's sedated.
Our Mighty sitar 88 when we have Ben Shapiro on your podcast soon. That will happen soon. I promise, Nick at 10, a kovitch. If you hypothetically won't sing results from the Pod, would you still be doing it? Dude, I did this thing when nobody listened literally no one where no one listened at all, does days in 2018 where we did.
Zero plays, we launched the Pod, I was doing an episode a week. We had all of the plays all of the backlog. Catalog, history of old episodes were like 10 15 episodes. In those days where we did zero plays. I did this long before anybody listened and I will do it long. After I'm canceled, I enjoy doing the show because I enjoy the people. I'm speaking to If ever stopped enjoying the people that I was speaking to, then I would stop doing the show but it's not about the numbers. It's never been about the numbers and that is
You know, the Bros fallen off meme. It means that you're kind of immune to that because you would never doing it for that in the first place. And it's the one thing that I found in life that I did like not as a commercial Pursuit, it was done everything in my life and my 20s was always about some form of money or some form of sort of positioning us, do whatever, whatever I did the show because I wanted to learn about the world and myself. I wanted to better understand myself and
world around me and it allowed me to do it.
And that meant that anything else that came along, you know, that scene in peaky, blinders, where Arthur Shelby and Tommy, she'll be a talking and they say that they came so close to death during the first world war, the battle of the Somme that everything after that was extra. That's kind of what it feels. All the things, all the good things that have happened to everything after just getting to speak to people. I'm interested in was extra, so yeah, I'd still be doing it.
Beast, when you bring Neva Neva, I'll do the thing. I would kind of need to make the call about when I would like to ask in that favor. I've got his WhatsApp, we've spoken, we spent a week together in Roatan, at the start of the year, he very well may even say yes, if and when I do it. But, I mean to pluck, first off, pluck up the courage and, secondly, it's only gonna happen once I think so, when do I want to do it?
And pick the time appropriately and pick the the shoot and make it sort of really beautiful. This would, that would be like the crowning episode for me. I think like the full full circle. So I need to work out how I'm gonna do it, but it'll happen. Stay patient. Aizaz, Ahmed Django's when you're going to get the number one podcasters.
The number one podcasters the world, Tim Dillon on the podcast, the number one podcaster in the world. Tim Dillon on podcast, we were so close. I kind of teased that it was going to happen and it was and then his schedule and mine both changed but we are back speaking to his team. So again, give me time. I'm just slowly inching my way toward all of the people that we all want to speak to. It's just fucking busy, man. Like they're busy and sometimes so am I
Mike Stevens like you, I've drastically decrease my alcohol consumption. How do you differentiate between times to let loose and have a drink in times when you should say, no, easiest way that I found this has been to set either Geographic or duration based limits and then it means that you don't need to actually make this call. Because how do you differentiate between when you should let loose and have a drink? And when you should say, no, there's a lot of cognitive effort that goes along with that.
And it's kind of exhausting to her. Am I going to do it tonight? I'm not going to do it tonight and it just takes away from the enjoyment of the event. Should I have said? Yes, I'm drinking or no, I'm not drinking when you start to do. What are you doing? Like you just don't need that. So for me, set a block of time and within that block of time a month or three months, or six months, or a year or whatever you don't drink, doesn't matter. You don't need to make the call, right? You've already made that commitment and or on top of that, if you are away, if
Or abroad somewhere for me, 2019, Fourth of July in Nashville on Broadway with the quarter of a million. People watching Chris Stapleton or someone play. I'm having a beer. I'm not not having a beer at that even if it's simply for the sort of tribute to be able to raise it in the air, I'm gonna have a beer so beer, I did so I think that's the best way to do it. Don't differentiate between times to let loose and times to have a drink.
Times. Let's say no, just stick to is it within the period? I said I wasn't going to and am I in a location that I said I wasn't going to as well. That's it Rock, Health. 22. How are you like really all of this instant Fame. Must be taking a toll on you? Yeah, I mean again it's kind of hard to talk about the negative side effects of a ton of attention because it's like a millionaire talking about how difficult it is to file their taxes for all.
All of the money that they've made or something. You know, it's a thing that lots of people aspire to have and that you created yourself and then you're whining about weird externalities that come along with it. It's odd. And again this whatever version of Fame, that I have is like degenerate Miche micro influence of Fame. It's not real, proper Fame at all.
What's interesting, that's happened. Recently, I had the first time where the attention was like, I saw the glimmer of it being too much which was just like the frequency of people coming up was too much. That was new and kind of weird, because up, until now, it's been what about every hour? Then it was every 30 minutes and it's every 15 minutes when you're out and about, and that's lovely like the perfect Cadence, couple of times an hour. Brilliant, I might let the pocket thank you to do other than that. Like, the other thing is
I'm not built for the level of scrutiny that happens. I don't think, you know, I am very much at the mercy of other people's opinions, quite sort of chronically uncertain about things that I'm doing and this has gotten worse over the last year as I've started to do more therapy and do more emotional work because you don't hide away all of the things that you're feeling through bravado or distraction or, you know, comforting fibs that you tell yourself or whatever. It's all there just staring you in the face.
And yeah that's been this year has been like a really difficult one to navigate. I think as all of this stuff happening with the show which is really great and flattering but then also kind of difficult to and who am I and why does the world see me differently? And blah, blah blah and then also who the fuck you think you are thinking the world sees? You differently. Just do a podcast. Like, what the fuck is this? But then you can't help but feel that the very complex and like unpacking. It is real interesting. So I don't know. This is why I got a good bit of stick for
Talking to people like a billionaire Andrew Wilkinson or whatever about the fact that money might not make you happy and people just either discredit him or so that it's an obvious insight. And I'm like well if it's so fucking obvious, why does everyone keep on trying to be richer hoping that it's going to make them happy and you know I'm really really trying hard to lay the bread crumbs behind me as each of these different stages occur in becoming better known or whatever of like this was the first time that I ever felt the attention was too much in person and having lots of people following inscription.
Denoting, the stuff that you do on the internet might sound like it's great and just ego inflating, but what it actually feels like, it's just an increase in hate because you don't remember the compliments. You only remember the insults. So larger platforms are largely just more negativity because you don't remember or it's your fucking Teflon for the nice stuff and your velcro for the bad stuff like trying to leave it behind me as I go. And that's my sedimentary layered Rock, archaeology thing of that's that's what it was like and that's what it is like.
Whitley dark matter what life decisions, such alternative Chris. Would you want to see play out? I can't answer this question without spoiling dark matter and everybody should go and read dark matter because the book is fantastic. I know that this is a series on Apple TV that I haven't watched yet, but a good friend told me that I should read dark matter and she was right. It was awesome. Highly highly recommended.
I'm not going in, I can't answer that question without spoiling and I want people to go and read it, so I might answer it in future. Once more people have read it. Oh yeah. Dolph delious. What is the hardest part about being you? Most people can't see or understand. Ah, again, it's like the millionaire whining about his. This is the inner, you know, we talked about that sort of British need to minimize suffering or to not sort of be too big-headed like that. That
It gives me such a response like that.
Look, I spend a lot of time on my own and I spend an awful lot of time under pressure. Largely pressure that I put on myself but the last couple of years has resulted in me just working more than I ever have on the show. Not doing the things that I started to show to do dealing with scheduling with guests and how we're going to shoot and budgeting and contracts and negotiations with partners and because as the show grows, we need to be able to fund all of these big shoots to
And out to the guests. If I want to go and see Jordan Pederson and Arizona and shoot with him, I need to get together all of the money to be able to make that happen. And then we need to schedule and then we need to organize it and we need to get the guys in there and then and still need to do the research in the prep. NE need to sit down and have a conversation with him and then it's Sheila afterwards, but others ad reads to do before you finish up. So the toughest thing about the show is all of the things that aren't the show that I still need to do. Like I am co-founder operator, host-guest Booker guest researcher like
Chief of operations, chief of marketing, the Instagrams, like everything, everything everything and I'm really looking forward to relinquishing that I'm so ready to let go of that. And I've hesitated, I don't talk about how the sausage is made on the show that much, because you guys aren't here to hear me whine about the very thing that you're here to watch. Like you're here to just sit down and enjoy the show and learn interesting insights from somebody who. Hopefully, I
And you find engaging and me harping on about the minutiae detail problems of the actual way. That this thing you enjoy comes about to me, just I've always steered clear from kind of showing you guys that and it does feel kind of like I've got this weird relationship with someone. I don't know who it is, but there's like a someone that represents all two and a bit million of you and I try and I try to sort of keep, you know, it's like you don't tell your mom things to not to not sort of
He heard there's like certain things. I just don't bother saying, but that's the big thing. The show involves a lot of stuff that isn't just the show, and I know that that also sounds like what? Yeah, what, why, why bother going through? It's so complex. Why not? Just make it simpler? It's like, well, look, if I want to achieve the things that I want to with the show, which is to push the limits, in terms of the guests that I can get. And in terms of doing things, people haven't done before the first world's first podcast on a video wall or 3D, or any on location or whatever the fuck were going to do. If I'm going to do that, I need
To be able to scale things up. I need to make it more sophisticated, but that's still come to this one point. This tip of the spear Apex which is just me, spinning, tons of plates and screaming Into The Ether, trying to hold it all together. And that takes up a lot of mental space like way more mental space than I'd like to admit. So that's the toughest thing I think, at the moment. But I'm looking forward to having someone. Hopefully that can just be like a big. I used to stand on the front or next. These huge Jordi bounces, right these
Doorman from Newcastle and I just want a big dormant in front of me and hopefully that's going to be the general manager / CEO person that will come in and taken deal with all of that stuff. And I just get to go back to doing what I love to do, which is finding interesting people and coming up with cool ideas. So hopefully that's what I had D. Mechelen Dima:, any plans to interview Mel Robbins and have you been to Japan or any plans to visit Mel Robbins has been on the list for ages? She's got a new book coming out.
To this year, speaking to the team would love to get her on. Hopefully, it'll happen think it's going to happen. Japan also. Yes, ton of friends out there guy, that asked the first question, actually, Chris cabin, I was out there. I'd love to go, but I've traveled a lot this year. So I'm kind of, I'm happy just being here in my new house.
Jay Clark, you mentioned, you were newly single, how has your approach to life changed since you mentioned? You are newly single? How has your approach to life changed since since, I'm newly single? Not much has changed to be honest, man. You know, my last relationship was long distance, so, very much I was focused on work with brief periods of doing the girlfriend thing. And then now, life's kind of just the same but without without brief.
Periods of doing a girlfriend thing which is probably definitely for the worst because it's just allowing me to work more and more as opposed to giving me a justifiable reason to stop working more. Not much has changed to be honest. It's certainly a very different world to the last time I was single which was four years ago you know more before covet basically very
Very big difference, I think which given that I was someone that spent all of that time, researching it, you know, looking at made in Crisis online, dating The Prestige and Status that's associated with a platform and how that impacts May preferences and so on and so forth. Like wow, I don't know when you experience it firsthand. All of that stuff. All of the changes in the world and perverse incentives and all the rest of it. It's a, it's a real change.
Yeah, I can see why people are confused.
Becky underscore Irish. Why do you respect Dan Bilzerian? That's a good question. I do respect, none. Actually, caveat. Evidently that doesn't mean that I agree with even everything, even anything that he says. One of the reasons, the reason that I respect Dan is that he says, what's on his mind, Dan's superpower. He's not the smartest guy in the room, it's not the best. Looking guy in the room, he's not the most really anything guy in the room.
But he says what's on his mind, his brain or his like heart to mouth filter is one of the lowest of anybody that I've ever met. Like, the thing that he's saying is the thing that he believes, even if what he believes is wrong, totally open to the prospect of that. Being the case.
It's just really fucking impressive to be around somebody who just does that and that doesn't mean that you need to agree and that doesn't mean that I'm fucking glazing him. What it does mean is he's a very non fungible human in that way that are not many people like him and there was a lot that I think that everybody should have taken away from the episode that I do them real, Chris Sailer 95, congrats, Chris on 2.5 million. I've been listening to Modern wisdom since early.
20 and it's been fantastic to be alongside you on this journey. Thank you. You got me hooked on sleep chunkin earlier this year and now it's a regular gym playlist. What are the music recommendations? Do you have or what's on your frequent rotation, nowadays, keep up the good work. Big love to you and the team. Thank you very much. So, wearing the T-shirt today, bad Omens, they are fucking fire. Their most recent album. Actually, everything they've put out is so good. Highly, highly recommend bad Omens. What else have I been listening to recently?
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Paris still getting into a bunch of that, I know. They kind of ended up on the bad end of a shit in a me to stuff Architects. Again, a kind of an obvious answer I guess but they're fantastic. Who's the dude that is supporting sleep token in the UK. There's this guy that's supporting sleep token in the UK, there's a crank in my fucking hog. Let's see if this comes up. Of course, it's not going to come up with, it's all one word.
Let's see if I can get it.
Come on, come on, Bill Murray, fucking, yes, got there. Bill Murray, be ilm URI, it's kind of a throwback to Mid 2000's, like emo style, breakdowns started listening, again to date. Remember for your strong Silverstein Taking Back Sunday, I'm really in my fall on, retro teenage era right now. So I'm going back to a bunch of that.
What else?
Palisades.
Bring me the new albums. Fantastic, like obvious, but Bring Me The Horizon great. And then a lot of and you know, deep like that's the sort of to a barbell ends of the spectrum as aggressive sad sometimes, hopefully Moke or post hardcore stuff and melodic fruity deep house on the other end like absolute, dopamine, Chris, and serotonin. Chris, those are the two.
The affect us. Hi Chris. How can you trust your decision making confidently when you become more and more insightful into the flawed space of your mind? Good question, when you see through the transient biases, and impulses that drive you towards certain things, not knowing, if those destinations are the ones you want, how'd you get over the indecisiveness that inherently comes from seeing through the charade? For example, when I'm trying to feel, if I want to spend the rest of my life with a girl, I am seeing I cannot separate the wanting of closeness and comfort from.
The of what really is good for me. I find it challenging to separate the immediate desire for closeness from the rational, assessment of what's good for me? I just love your podcast man. Keep it up. You're an inspiration and a role model, bro. Well thank you very much and I know you know the basis of this question is how can you make decision making confidently when you become more and more insightful into the flawed space of your mind? Dude, it's all for me. It's all explained by a quote shock horror to the guy that fucking loves everything. Explains everything with a quote
Ultimately happiness, in life comes down to the discomfort between choosing to become aware of your mental, afflictions, or the discomfort of becoming ruled by them. You can choose to be aware of your mental afflictions, or you can be ruled by them, and I want to be aware of them.
Yes, that is going to bring with it a whole host of inside about the fact that well, fuck I was so confident previously that this was the right thing to do. But now I see how inherently broken and flawed and uncertain and, and winging it everybody including myself is, how can I have any for? How did I ever make any decision before? How did I ever make any sort of big commitment?
I think one of the problems that you have is that you increase the grandiosity and the importance of the decisions that you're making further than they need to most decisions are reversible in one form or another. If any decision is reversible, you can make it pretty much immediately because you can turn it around like you leave a job, okay? You go to do a thing but you can get a new job presumably unless it's a very rare job or something that you're not going to be able to replicate but if you're in a sales role like everybody needs a good.
Person so okay, leave the job, try the thing and then go back to it. When it comes to your relation, your idea of in spend the rest of my time, my life with a girl, I'm seeing can't separate the wanting a closeness and comfort from the rational assessment of what's good for me. I don't know why the desire for closeness and the rational assessment of what's good for you wouldn't be the same thing. Like it seems quite rational to want closeness. It seems like if you're enjoying something, what's more rational than that? Also I would try and pull you out of
Your own head. I'm aware that like I'm saying this mr. Cerebral. But the more that I've tried to sort of embody emotions in that way. In fact, there was a really great study done. There was a guy who needed
Either he was in an accident or he needed an area of his brain. Removing and this area of his brain was associated with emotion. And the problem was that they asked him. I think, what time tomorrow, he wanted to have his next interview with the doctors that were conducting the study and it took 30 minutes for him to not choose until someone suggested a day and he just agreed because without any emotional valence, no,
The your priority set is constructed through emotions. Like it's just Vibes, bro. Is so true. The I'm the more that I think about it. The more that I learned about life, the more I'm convinced that it's just Vibes. So I actually think that
relying Less on rationality and not praying at the feet of a like, if you did a thing and it felt good and you didn't regret doing it tomorrow. What else is there like it was right in the moment? It was right in the future. I don't think that you need to try and be able to predict every individual permutation, like in fucking dark matter. You don't need to be able to predict how everything's gonna go. You just find something that feels right, go with it. If it's a reversible decision, you'll be fine. If it's something that you can do step-by-step, that's also fine.
You'll be all right, you're paying way more attention to all of this stuff than anybody else's. So if you can learn to just release a little bit more instead of tightening up, I think everything will be good. Bob Dan, 04:02, what are your current goals in the gym? What are you focusing on right now? Need more Vlogs. About your training and routine. Greetings from Ukraine fucking Ukraine bro. Wow.
He's got these. By the way, element of started doing a RTD salty, sparkling drinking is so good. Goes in the gym, just absolute bro. Physique, pushpa legs, at with a couple of additional sessions, one is the Norwegian four bytes of, for thing that I spoke about with dr. Rhonda Patrick, trying to get a healthy heart and shoulders buys and tries on a Saturday with one of my boys and that's it. It's nothing.
I fancy. It's not one. Two, three, four. Five.
And a half, five and a half hours of training a week, maybe a little bit more. It's great blogs about training. Mike is retail, one is coming up soon George heat and wind is coming up soon. Chris Bumstead is coming up soon so there will be more training like the least.
Legitimate person to be doing training blogs in the world ago that trains five and a half hours a week. But here we are. We're doing it. Sighs psycho 666. Hey Chris, appreciate your content. Congrats on the 2 .5 mil. Thank you. I have a question, how'd you get out of a rut? Do you even have ones or just your podcast requires you to never get under a certain level? So it's a really that's a really smart in sight. I am unbelievably familiar with getting into
What's, and you know, throughout my 20s? I was pretty sure that I had some intermittent depression thing that would just come along and flattened me and I had no idea why it was happening and I would struggle to get out of bed for a couple of days at a time. It wasn't, he wasn't
when self-harming, I wasn't in the absolute depths of Despair, but it was this very normal, very sort of mundane boring type of depression. Just this malaise, fucking thing that I was swimming in where everything felt heavy, getting out of bed, felt heavy going to work. Felt heavy speaking to somebody for have you. So I just didn't do it and I was working for myself so nobody could tell me to do otherwise so I'm very very familiar with it.
I actually do think that the Pod kind of drags me through. I worked very well with accountability and this may be a useful insight to other people to that one of the reasons that I've been able to stay, so consistent with the show, is that there is no way.
I'm not going to show up when there is a guest waiting on the other side. Think about how many times when you were in school or University or with the project for work or something where there isn't strictly a deadline and there's no expectation that you're going to do it. I'm just going to learn Spanish because I'm going to learn Spanish. I'm just going to complete this either submission early or whatever you never do, you never do because you just continue to expand and expand in. You can justify to yourself, you mañana, mañana mañana, but if you were doing it with,
Somebody else, if you are sitting down to work together, you're not not going to do the work to someone. They're looking at you, you're the partner in this project or your your teacher at the piano or fucking Spanish or whatever it is that you're doing.
And the show has permanently kept me in the presence of an external accountable person. And
that's meant that I've never missed. I never once ever missed an episode ever in nearly a thousand episodes. I've never once not shown up and I've been in like really sad moods like really, really down moods, although they've gotten less recently, but I do think maybe fifty percent of it is probably actually maybe a third of it is because
I bet you hated myself into not.
Sort of Permitting that.
Millie you to take hold, maybe another third is that, I've improved my quality of life, sleep pattern diet, training Social Circle. Whether of where I live lifestyle stuff. And then the final third is kind of what you said, which is that the Pod just means I can't get under a certain level or else I can't perform. And I want to perform and I care more about being good on the show. And
About keeping this thing. This thing that I care about going and proving to myself that I can do it. I care more about that than
I am worried or prepared to indulge me feeling sad. So yeah, I think find a Pursuit.
Which is stronger or bigger than your bad. Moods is maybe a lesson to take away from that.
LJ Thug, 12. What advice would you give to Rising public figures about dealing with being recognized in public harassment. Stalking not knowing, if someone knows who you are, one trying to make new friends, Etc. I'm not sure. I'm the person's to give this advice. I would love to hear from the person who could give that advice. I can only talk about my own experience for me. Being recognized in. Public is unanimously. Good, nobody has ever said. This isn't a fucking challenge.
Okay. But no one ever says nasty things to me in public. No one ever sort of. I mean, what are you going to say? Like I didn't like that quote from John Paul Sartre that you said or you you're actually not not a public intellectual and like, bro, the fact that you've considered me to potentially be a public. Intellectual is a problem of you, not me. I never claimed to be one. Anyway, all the stuff in public fine harassment. Stalking again, I don't know what I think. I might be a bit boring. At least like personally, quite boring
And also the right level of out there and not out there. I just the harassment stalking thing, doesn't doesn't happen. Knowing no one seems to Care by luck, or by crook, whatever that saying is I seem to be getting through it. Not knowing, if someone knows who you are when trying to make new friends, you seem to really be able to tell that pretty easily. And yeah, Mark Manson has this insight about like friends and fans and the sort of challenge in the tension between the two.
But largely, it's just been a mostly enjoyable experience with some mostly self-imposed problems and externalities when it's about the story. You tell yourself about who you are tan. Guy, Renault D, 1261, hi Chris, you've become my favorite podcast to buy large margin, I barely look anywhere else anymore, your insights examples aphorisms and quick laps of open my eyes to a new way of seeing the world.
Thank you. Thank you very much. Here's my question one. I've been wrestling with. How do you raise the bar? And the pressure on yourself to work harder and change. When the cost of this hard work, seems higher than the life you are already enjoying. What leavers can you pull in your environment in your daily routine? To force yourself to change and push harder when life is already pretty fine but could be better. This seems mostly applicable to employees like me who have a stable 925 but dream of more great question. And I think it's where a lot of people sit. You know this is the region beta
Ox in many ways life is not that bad but not that good. You kind of have this sense that you're maybe built for more but you're not too sure you would have to risk a lot but not a nun surmountable insurmountable amount of to risk a bit which even makes the fact that you're not making, you're not taking the risk seem embarrassing because it's not everything. But also how much better could life be. It's a largely giving up the good for the great and how do you motivate yourself to?
It. So one of the things that I did Tony Robbins awaken the giant within, has a really weird if you look on Audible, there is a 90 minute version, which is just workbook exercises. There's a bit of narrative in it too. I have no idea what the fuck you made this for, but a friend sent it to me. It's so odd like this thing. It's 20 years old and it's not the book. It's awaken the giant within something. Just do a search and have a look through a bunch of them and
And he has a few different exercises. One of which is think about thing that you want to make a change with now and bring into the present moment. All of the ways it's cost you in the past is costing you now and will cost you in the future. All of the situations you've been through where you wish that you could have changed it. What it's doing to your life in the moment, and all of the ways that in the future, this is going to continue to curtail and limit your happiness and your fulfillment.
And then do the opposite. Think about how much better life could be. If you did do this thing, whatever the thing is, whatever the changes that you're looking to make and then he redefines change, making the decision to change as taking a physical action, that moves your world toward it. There's no such thing, he says, as making a decision there is only taking an action. What does it mean to say? I've decided to leave my job. What's that mean? Like doesn't mean anything? Just I have sent an
Mail to my boss, asking him for a meeting on Monday. That's taking a step toward leaving a job. Deciding deciding is bullshit and I think for the chronic over thinkers amongst us, it's a very good solution. So that was something that worked really hard really well for me on top of that.
What are you here to do here? To kind of exist in this Comfortably, Numb interquartile range middle period thing of life or do you want to make some fucking waves? I want to make some waves. I want to do something that I look back on and I go yeah I actually I made that happen out of nothing. I had an impact I left dent and that's not going to happen if you're sitting in good, but not great. And
It's fine for a lot of people, but I kind of get the sense that if you're listening to this show and asking questions, like that, that that's probably not for you. And unfortunately, the discomfort which includes potentially letting go of a good life to risk. Getting a uncertain, great life. Is one of those prices that you have to pay, and that's why so few people do it, but if you want to do it, that's
Step, you have to take.
Erin mundt, love your work mate. What's your favorite cologne to her? So at the moment I'm wearing baccarat Rouge the Yellow Version, not the red version. And any of my friends know that, like, if I have a borrower hoodie or whatever that, how do you'll stink of it for the next couple of weeks, one of my friends just had bucket for the show Sky. I put his hoodie on a plane, maybe like a year ago and his girlfriend, or his wife fiance at the time, started complimenting him. And how nice
He smelled and he felt like he was being. How do you say like nasally cooked by me from wearing this thing? But back at Rouge is fantastic. I've been through a few Cycles, pent Halligan's, how fetty is fire. That's really really nice to Little Bit Stronger. Bit darker. There was this world in which everybody walk read aventis in Newcastle and it became a meme smell. So I had to stop wearing that but yeah, baccarat Rouge.
At the moment is, is my favorite and those are the ones our belt as well.
D Willie 840. 8, do you wake up? Do you feel well rested waking up every day and if so, what do you attribute it? To I struggle with feeling well rested at seemingly random times. All right, so
Yeah, that's a good question this year. I've had probably the lowest energy I ever have largely because of fighting with health shit from this previous house. And no, I haven't I didn't. I'd love to just, you know, be the fucking picture of podcasting health and tell you, yes, I'm always great or whatever, but I'm not I'm sleeping more than I ever have in feeling less rested, but that's part of the recovery process for this shit. I'm going through, I would do a mold check a
Each mode. Check on your house and I would get some immune markers Bloods of immune markers, done. Fuck was on whether they called, there's a couple of labs that do really great break if you just search for immune marker blood test, that would be one of the first places that I would go to, maybe it's something in the environment, maybe it's something in testosterone levels, obviously get your tea levels checked, you can get just like a full blood panel done. Merrick health.com such modern wisdom.
And then modern was some I think is 10% off if you want to get that done in America. If you're outside of America go and speak to a doctor but if you're sleeping well you shouldn't be tired and it means there's something else going on. So I hope that you find out what the solution is Rasmus kolman. Congrats. Thank you question. It seems as though I'm either really productive with work in periods but my health and joy take a hit. I am in full Zen mode living life meeting more people in.
% serotonin Rasmus mode, very cool, but failed to get enough work done. So then I feel the lack of purpose and an overwhelming pressure to work harder. Do you run into this problem and how do you deal with it? Is, the answer is simple as balance. Finding that seems arduous after all this time, fucking awesome question, dude. So this is the issue that we have multiple. Sometimes conflicting goals in life and we want to try and do both serotonin. Chill meditation have fun with my friends thing and I also want to be in
Mode my solution for this. And this is something that I talk about on the new home 0z episode is to have Obsession in the micro and variation in the macro. I think, the best way to try and work this in is to do. Let's say weekdays you work hard and Grind Mode. And then on a weekend, you allow yourself a little bit more time to chill out and do stuff. Or if you find that you need to be more committed for a longer period of time. You do one
Month on and then you have a week where you take a little bit more time to have fun and if that's not enough you keep pushing it out until you find the right Cadence and the right balance between the two. For me, personally, I'm very much a creature of obsession and have it so I need to be in kind of one mode, I'm either in Holiday mode. I mean, then is on a gondola taking photos of ancient fucking buildings that none of them astray or I'm bidding myself doing long days and
and allowing myself to just go fully obsessed. I'm obsessive on both, right? I'm using my, I think you're using my obsession to my advantage completely dedicated to work and then completely dedicated to Holiday, and that pivot seems to work well. So it sounds like your belt at least slightly similarly, to me.
Allow Obsession in the micro and balance in the macro which is basically period izing things, right Health. Enjoy something that you need to focus on. So how often do you need to have health in joy? And how often do you need to have the work thing in order to satisfy both of them? And then as opposed to trying to balance them across a day, try and balance them across a week or across a month or across a year. That's a much easier way to do it. Same as Mike is retail said about getting a step. Count in like luck, my goal is to hit. I think he does.
7,000. So his goal is to hit 77 Thousand Steps a week and if he does 9,000 one day, he can do 13,000. The next day, the same thing goes for calories. It's not about how many calories you eat every day. It's about how many calories you eat per day multiplied across an entire year, right? So it doesn't really matter about how your balance is of work within the minute, right? You're not trying to have a little bit of Zen, and a little bit of grind per minute to just scale that out. Why do it per day or per week or per month?
Peer advising between the two at least for me is my current working hypothesis and I reserve the right to renege on it and say that it's a fucking terrible idea. Not long ago. Dr. Bryan Keating. You said you never add your interview with Andrew Tate. Why not do you not worry about similar damage to your brand that comes from hosting anti-semitic misogynists, like Dan Bilzerian? What other interest is there other than he's supposedly Rich? What's the upside there? Okay, so I think
You might be a little confused about why I didn't share the episode with Andrew. I didn't say anything about it, being damaged to my brand, I didn't post it because at the time, YouTube was taking down, any coded, skeptical information, and then the reason that I didn't air it after that was because I actually felt a little bit harsh on Andrew, I don't have really any degree of loyalty or I don't have any obligation to
Not stitch him up with a big video but just seems like a shitty thing to do. It's not something that you do to somebody else to post a video of a quite gregarious person, talking about a highly chaotic rapidly moving new situation, three years later when we can kind of stress, test a lot of the speculation that he was doing in, it would just result in him, making a ton of claims, that kind of maybe didn't come out to be true or whatever. And I'm like, well I wouldn't like that, if somebody did that about me and also
So it's a bit out of date is three years and it would have been plainly transparent that the only reason that I was doing that was because he was a massive name. He was the most Googled person in the world so all of the incentives aligned for me to just not do it. Taking the second question just as its own. Do you worried that similar damage to your brand comes from hosting anti-semitic misogynists like Dan Bilzerian. So Dan went straight from the episode. He did with me to do an episode with Patrick but David and
Episode went up before ours went out, Patrick turned his round before minded and then Dan started sharing some clips about Israel and his position on that. I don't care about his position on Israel. I didn't know about what his position was and I didn't have a conversation with him about it. I think that what other interest is there other than he's supposedly Rich, what Brian you run? A science.
Mostly science podcast. I think if you were to look at Dan as somebody who has reached the Pinnacle of the Hedonism mountain and not think that there is something for us to learn from him. That seems quite surprising to me. Maybe it's because running a science podcast, you can't see the angle of this from a personal development lens, but I think that there's an awful lot to learn from somebody who's been to the absolute extreme of fulfilling, all of their gratuitous desires, it would be surprising to me that you couldn't see.
See that they will be something to learn when it comes to damage to my brand. I don't make judgments based on damage to my brand. I speak to people, that I'm interested in about things. I'm interested in. That's it. And I'm sure that you do the same on your show. So,
It wasn't to do with damage brand damage about 108 and I will continue to bring on people that I'm interested in regardless of what everyone else thinks about them. There's no user name here. I'm just going to continue as a mum of two boys. Thank you for discussing issues men, face the dating crisis topics and evolutionary psychology podcasts are amazing and have helped me to build up a library to reference as my boys grow up in this crazy world. In addition, my husband and I have in-depth
Ends. But what how we want to raise our boys, while keeping these issues in mind. Thank you. I appreciate that. I very much do. I didn't think about and know the second-order trickle-down effect of mums listening to the advice for guys and then teaching it to their sons but that's pretty cool.
Are there any other books are researchers that focus on male adolescent development that you would recommend? Not my area of expertise, but I would just stick to the big ones when it comes to sex differences. I think that you learn an awful lot from the world of evolutionary psychology about how men and women sort of are in a more natural sense, in terms of the sort of typical biases, and you can learn an awful lot, the April, understood the universe by Steve Stewart Williams. The moral Animal by Robert
8 the happiness hypothesis by Jonathan haidt.
Richard Reeves of boys and men Billy no mates, another good book. Who else would be in there?
That's a good starting point. And then in terms of followers, like George from the Tin Men, it's just the, the absolute best at this sort of men's rights ascended, third wave manosphere stuff at the moment. I think. So, I will continue to find the people. Just listen to the show. You don't need to don't worry about new books or researchers. Just keep listening to the podcast and I will continue to tell you everything, Michael, Rooney 9340. Oh man. Congrats, thank you. Now, you've been
Doing the newsletter for a while and have so many people reading. Do you think of yourself as a writer as well as a podcaster actually do? Which kind of cool didn't ever consider? I don't need like, writer just seems like such a salubrious title. Seems like something that's, you know, the upper echelons should be able to say, but I've written like over a quarter of a million words since I started that thing. So I guess, I guess I am a writer and I really like it, actually, I really
Think it clarifies my thought in a way that just speaking doesn't just speaking gives me a lot but writing give me something else too. So you know, very much very much, appreciate them. All right, I'm done. That's it. I appreciate you all two and a half million Subs which is fucking wild. What are you going to see over the next few weeks? You're going to see Chris Bumstead. You're going to see Leon adeeb. You're going to see will Tennyson. Jesse? James West. You're going to see Casey neistat. Look at all of this. Releasing all of this stuff at the very end.
An hour and a half into an episode and so few people are going to get to hear it. That's the little Easter egg. Do you got for sticking about Ben Shapiro? Ben Shapiro is booked. He's coming on. I'm going to Florida to record with him as well whilst coming up.
That's kind of it. That's kind of that's, that's the next few weeks, that'll be happening. While this comes out. I will be away. I'll be in Florida, I'll be recording. But I appreciate you all. Thank you for the support and the kind questions and the patience of putting up with me while I work out. How to navigate all of this stuff. It's very, very meaningful. I'll see you next time.
